There'd be a hole wagon-load of things come and be put on the tree. They brought it home and my granmother knew it was Joe's. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days to go to Fort Gibson. My uncle Joe was de slave boss and he tell us what de Master say do. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. After the old time rich folks die, them that had their money buried, they com back and haunt the places where it is. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. They could have anything they wanted. The city is divided into two parts: the old town, on a high hill, and the modern area, on level ground, which is fully connected to the city . People just go and help themselves, till they couldn't eat no mo! They get something they need too. No fusses, no bad words, no nothin like that. Dey would come up in a bunch of about nine men on horses and look at all our passes, and if a negro didn't have no pass dey wore him out good and made him go home. I got all my money and fine clothes from the marster and the missus. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. Everything was stripedy cause Mammy like to make it fancy. Master give me over to de National Freedmen's bureau and I was bound out to a Cherokee woman name Lizzie McGee. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. We went on a place in de Red River Bottoms close to Shawneetown and not far from de place where all de wagons crossed over to go into Texas. Young, Mary., "The Cherokee Nation: Mirror of the Republic", (American Quarterly), Vol. Eventually the Cherokee council granted Joseph the inheritance in line with his father's wish; this included 2,000 acres (8.1 km2) of land, trading posts, river ferries, and the Vann House in Spring Place, Georgia. Born in Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States on 11 Feb 1765 to John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann and WahLi Wa-Wli aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan. I got all the clothes I need from old Mistress, and in winter I had high top shoes with brass caps on the toe. That sure was a tough time for the soldiers, for father said they fought and fought before the "Seesesh" soldiers finally took off to the south and the northern troops went back to Fort Gibson. Excepting master and mistress, couldn't nobody put things in there but her. Cal Robertson was eighty-nine years old when I married him forty years ago, right on this porch. He was a multi-millionaire and handsome. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. At night dem trundles was jest all over the floor, and in de morning we shoved em back under de big beds to git dem outn' de way. One night a runaway negro come across form Texas and he had de blood hounds after him. Perhaps because they had observed the prosperity so often achieved by slave-holding whites, Indians of mixed-blood were more apt to own slaves. After supper the colored folks would get together and talk, and sing, and dance. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. Some 3,500 interviews were conducted. Sometimes she pull my hair. He come to our house and Mistress said for us Negroes to give him something to eat and we did. Master's name was Joe Sheppard, and he was a Cherokee Indian. Its got a buckeye and a lead bullet in it. Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. A few days later they caught up with the slaves, still in Indian Territory. The second time I married a cousin, Rela Brewer. The low class work in the fields. John Trader U Wa Ni Vann married Mary Wa' Li' Cherokee King-Vann and had 15 children. She married as her second husband, Thomas Mitchell. Marster had a big Christmas tree, oh great big tree, put on the porch. Dey tole me some of dem was bad on negroes but I never did see none of dem night riding like some say dey did. I dont know, but that was before my time. The white folks go first and after they come out, the colored folks go in. Another time his officer give him a message; he was on his way to deliver it when the enemy spy him and cry out to stop, but father said he kept on going until he was shot in the leg. I had a silver dine on it, too, for a long time, but I took it off and got me a box of snuff. A bunch of us who was part Indian and part colored, we got our bed clothes together some hams and a lot of coffee and flour and started to Mexico. But we couldnt learn to read or have a book, and the Cherokee folks was afraid to tell us about the letters and figgers because they have a law you go to jail and a big fine if you show a slave about the letters. Little hog, big hog, didn't make no difference. See other search results for Chief Joseph David VANN Ready to discover your family story? 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. John Cherokee Vann (born 1740) Old Settlers (Text) . Seem like it take a powerful lot of fighting to rid the country of them Rebs. He was a slave on the Chism plantation, but came to Vann's all the time on account of the horses. Web. Chief Joseph David VANNfamily tree Parents John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann 1735- 1815 Waw Li Otterlifter 1750- 1835 Wrong Chief Joseph David VANN? Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. They had fine furniture that Marster Vann had brought home in a steamboat from far away. I'se proud anyway of my Vann name. My father was born in Tahlequah just about where the colored church stands on Depot Hill. My mother died when I'se small and my father married Delia Vann. Mammy had the wagon and two oxen, and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. Used to go up and down the river in his steamboat. Everybody, white folks and colored folks, having a good time. In reply to: genealogy of Chief James. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. The commissary was full of everything good to eat. I'se born across the river in the plantation of old Jim Vann in Webbers Falls. We went down to the river for baptizings. Because I'se so little, Missus Jennie took me into the Big house and raised me. Sometimes I eat my bread this morning none this evening. He sold one of my brothers and one sister because they kept running off. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. The man put dem on a block and sold em to a man dat had come in on a steamboat, and he took dem off on it when de freshet come down and de boat could go back to Fort Smith. Joseph H. Vann, (11 February 1798 23 October 1844). Everybody laugh and was happy. Pappa named Charley Nave; mamma's name was Mary Vann before she marry and her papa was Talaka Vann, one of Joe Vann's slave down around Webber's Falls. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. They'd cut brush saplings, walk out into the stream ahead of the pen and chase the fish down to the riffle where they'd pick em up. That house was on the place my papa said he bought from Billy Jones in 1895. Run it to the bank!" Do you know what I am going to do? My brothers was name Sone and Frank. Chief Joseph did not live to see again the land he'd known as a child and young warrior. Family tree. Don't know what they ever did with that arm. Betty Robertson's father worked aboard Joseph Vann's steamboat, Lucy Walker. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. Well, I go ahead, and make me a crop of corn all by myself and then I don't know what to do wid it. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evenings and make wooden spoons out of maple. He builds the large brick mansion house at Spring Place, Murray Country, Georgia, which stands today as a monument at its owner. Sometimes us children would try to follow her, but she'd turn us around pretty quick and chase us back with: "Go on back to the house or the wolves get you.". Old Master Joe had a big steam boat he called the Lucy Walker, and he run it up and down the Arkansas and the Mississippi and the Ohio river, old Mistress say. I went to the missionary Baptist church where Marster and Missus went. Cal Robertson was eighty-nine years old when I married him forty years age, right on this porch. They get something they need too. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. 5 May 1910, d. 2002, Illinois. She was raised up at dat mill, but she was borned in Tennessee before dey come out to de nation. Dere was a sister named Patsy; she died at Wagoner, Oklahoma. Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptized if we want to, but I wasn't baptized till after the War. Black Hock was awful attached to the kitchen. They wasn't very big either, but one day two Cherokees rode up and talked a long time, then young Master came to the cabin and said they were sold because mammy couldn't make them mind him. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboats couldn't run. Then one day one of my uncles name Wash Sheppard come and tried to git me to go live wid him. Old Mistress had inherited some property from her pappy and dey had de slave money and when dey turned everything into good money after de War dat stuff only come to about six thousand dollars in good money, she told me. He used to take us to where Hyge Park is and we'd all go fishin'. They had a big big plantation down by the river and they was rich. Upon being brought to Fort Gibson, five slaves were held to stand trial for murdering the two bounty hunters. Half brother of James Fields; Lucy Hicks; Isabel Wolf; Delila Fields; Charles Timberlake and 8 others; Jesse Vann; Delilah Amelia McNair; Joseph Vann; James Vann; Sarah 'Sally' Nicholson (Vann); John Hon John Vann; Robert B. In slavery time the Cherokee negroes do like anybody else when they is a death---jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. In 1840 the town of Harrison was developed on an adjoining property, and the county seat of Hamilton County was moved south to the Tennessee River to this location. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder, I don't know, but that was before my time. Sometime Young Master Joe and the other boys give me a piece of money and say I worked for it, and I reckon I did for I have to cook five or six times a day. Mammy say they was lots of excitement on old Masters place and all the Negroes mighty scared, but he didnt sell my pappy off. I joined the Catholic church after the war. I dunno her other name. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. Chiefs: Dragging Canoe (1777-1792) John Watts (1792-1802) Doublehead, brother of Old Tassel, served from 1802-1807 The Glass, or Ta'gwadihi (1807-1809) Cherokee Nation East (1794-1839) John Ross, c. 1866 Little Turkey was elected First Beloved Man of the . He got that message to the captain just the same. I spent happy days on the Harnage plantation going squirrel hunting with the master---he was always riding, while I run along and throw rocks in the trees to scare the squirrels so's Marse John could get the aim on them; pick a little cotton and put it in somebody's hamper (basket) and run races with other colored boys to see who would get to saddle the masters horse, while the master would stand laughing by the gate to see which boy won the race. A whole half of ribs sold for twenty-five cents. The first time I married was to Clara Nevens, and I wore checked wool pants, and a blue striped cotton shirt. Again the Indian command system lost the Chickamauga their last chance to carry their colors to the Clinch River. Some had been in a big run-away and had been brung back, and wasn't so good, so he keep them on the boat all the time mostly. We had bonnets that had long silk tassels for ties. View Site He wouldn't take us way off, but just for a ride. Nothing is known of Bryan (t) Ward's ancestry and except for the one son his white family is uncertain. After a bloody fracas in 1834, Colonel W. N. Bishop established his brother, Absolom Bishop, on the premises and Joseph Vann with his family was driven out to seek shelter over the state line in Tennessee. [Note from curator: these slave narratives are not under copyright]. I'se born right in my master and missus bed. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. Someone rattled the bones. His grandfather was Clement Vann, a Scottish trader who moved from Charleston, South Carolina, to the Cherokee lands in northwest Georgia and married Wa-wli, a Cherokee Indian. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. In the morning we got up early, made a fire, and made a big pot of coffee. He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. Sometimes they fish in the Illinois river, sometimes in the Grand, but they always fish the same way. In 1837 ptior to the main Cherokee Removal, he transported a few hundred Cherokee men, women, children, slaves and horses aboard a flotilla of flat boats to Webber's Falls on the Arkansas River in Indian Territory. A few years of her life were also quite possibly spent among Seminoles during part of that time, although her memory of the death of Joseph "Rich Joe" Vann is clearly a part of Cherokee history. There is no mention of Joseph Vann in the article. 467-91. All Indians lived around there, the real colored settlement was four mile from us, and I wasn't scared of them Indians for pappa always told me his master Henry Nave, was his own father; that make me part Indian and the reason my hair is long, straight and black like a horse mane. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. I had one brother and one sister sold when I was little and I dont remember the names. She turned the key to the commissary too. She was weavin when the case came up so quick, missus Jennie put her in her own bed and took care of her. He had to work on the boat, though, and never got to come home but once in a long while. Old Master tell me I was borned in November 1852, at de old home place about five miles east of Webbers Falls, mebbe kind of northeast, not far from de east bank of de Illinois River. Someone maybe would be playing a fiddle or a banjo. My mammy was a Crossland Negro before she come to belong to Master Joe and marry my pappy, and I think she come wid old Mistress and belong to her. It made my Master mad, but dey didn't belong to him no more and he couldn't say nothing. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. Dere come six children; Charley, Alec, Laura, Harry Richard and Jeffy, who waS named after Jefferson Davis. I would stay around about a week and help em and dey would try to git me to take something but I never would. De hog killing mean we gots lots of spare-ribs and chitlings and somebody always git sick eating to much of dat fresh pork. They had a big big plantation down by the river and they was rich. They had a big big plantation down by the river and they was rich. Yes I was! Dat was one poor negro dat never go away to de North and I was sorry for him cause I know he must have had a mean master, but none of us Sheppard negroes, I mean the grown ones, tried to get away. It's on records somewhere; old Seneca Chism and his family. When I left Mrs. McGee's I worked about three years for Mr. Sterling Scott and Mr. Roddy Reese. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. On October 23, 1844, the steamboat Lucy Walker departed Louisville, Kentucky, bound for New Orleans. She done his washing and knew the cuff of his sleeve. He went to the war for three years wid the Union soldiers. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. Everybody had a good time. He courted a girl named Sally. Yes, I have seen something, a story about a 'grandson' of Joseph VANN running away to Texas. Mammy work late in the night, and I hear the loom making noises while I try to sleep in the cabin. The command of the Army was shared by Doublehead and Watts. My father was a carpenter and blacksmith as well as race-horse man and he wanted to make money. Nita. Son of Di-Ga-Lo-Hi 'James' "Crazy Chief Vann and Go-sa-du-i-sga Nancy Timberlake We had bonnets that had long silk tassels for ties. There wasn't nothing left. Marster never whipped no one. His death date is unknown - did NOT die in a steamboat explosion (that happened in 1844 to a different Joe Vann), did NOT die in 1809 (that was his son); was dead by 1800 when Clement Vann is reported by Moravians as husband of Wah li by by Joseph, 11 years old, was in the room when his father, James, was murdered, in Buffingtons Tavern in 1809 near the site of the family-owned ferry. Every dollar she make on the track, I give it to Lucy." The following year, Joseph Vann and several of his black rebels died in the explosion of his steamboat Lucy Walker during a race on the Ohio River. Isaac had been Young Joe's driver and he told me all about how rich Master Joe was and how he would look after us negroes. I wouldn't go, so he sent Isaac and Joe Vann dat had been two of Old Captain Joe's negroes to talk to me. He made a deal with Dave Mounts, a white man, who was moving into the Indian country to drive for him. A doctor put it in alcohol and they kept it a long time. 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