You start with a 223 Remington brass that has been full-length sized in a .223 die. The case and bullet are completely captured by the die prior to the bullet being pushed straight into the case by a close-fitting seating stem. "WARNING: For your own safety, ALWAYS reduce all starting charges by 10% and work up carefully! When running tests with the above bullets and a variety of powders, the best results occurred with the Sierra 39-grain BlitzKing, closely followed by the Hornady 32-grain V-MAX. yes they will fit. And the 20 Practical matches the performance of the highly-publicized 20 Tactical with less money invested and no need to buy forming dies or fire-form cases. After the .228 bushing it still measures .200 ID. Gain twist bbls cost about 100.00 more than standard twist bbls. I could not find the Redding bushing in stock for that size, so I ordered a wilson bushing after reading it would work in the Redding die. Most 20 VarTarg shooters are satisfied with the quality (and price), so long as the Rem brass is weight-sorted and prepped before loading. The following tables provide external ballistics information (bullet drop and bullet drift) out to 500 yards with a range of useful velocities for the popular 20 CAL Hornady, and Berger bullets. Please read before using our Custom Sizer Die, Lead time for Custom dies is currently averaging 10 weeks. The 20 Practical gives the SAME performance as the 20 Tactical without fire-forming, or having to buy expensive forming dies. Redding Type s decapping assembly 204R. . As formed, the brass chambered and the bolt closed without issue. Concentricity is enhanced by the ability of the bushing to self-center on the neck of the cartridge case. Unless the neck is too tight or brass is too thick. This time, accompanying my rifle when it arrived was a laminated target with an elongated hole in it denoting a three-shot group at 100 yards measuring .156 inch. Recently picked one up and want to make some more loads than what it came with. To be fair, in my experience, some of the .22-caliber cartridges provide more explosive hits on such targets as prairie dogs, but to that we must put the question: Are there degrees of dead? I only saw barrels longer than 20" listed at WOA. #2 01-16-2013, 03:21 AM bowfisher. Currently, Cooper Arms of Montana and Dakota Arms offer factory rifles in 20 VarTarg. This reduces the neck diameter slightly. We've run the ballistics for a range of start velocities, so you can compare different cartridges. 223 brass into the size die, 20 Tactical comes out. Access from your Country was disabled by the administrator. 5.1 using manufacturer's published ballistic coefficients. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. Most of the credit must go to the fine Cooper rifle and good bullets, but the cartridge design is certainly entitled to its share. If you have questions or need help with ordering feel free to email us at: CustomDies@whiddengunworks.com. It is also extremely accurate. The regular form and trim die 83660 will not help. Ballistics Data was generated with Sierra's Infinity Software Vers. Both have rifle length gas systems if I am at the bench I like the 26 much better if I am in the RZR I like the 20". Lead time for Custom dies is currently averaging 10 weeks from thethe 1st of the following month in which your order was placed and your brass or reamer print was received by us. Perhaps it is at its best with the heavier bullets. For heavier ones, a one-in-9-inch twist is recommended, especially at longer ranges. 20 Practical Ultimate Varminter Its difficult to imagine a small capacity rifle case that hasnt been necked up or down to .20 caliber. Material: 416R Stainless Steel Caliber: .20 Practical Barrel Length: 24" Rifle Length Gas Port 11-degree Target Crown M4 Feed Ramps 1 in 12" Rate of Twist Fluted Barrel Manufacturer: Midwest Gun Works PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS: Barrel Length: 24" Brand: MGW Caliber: .20 Practical Finish / Color: Stainless Steel Firearm Type: Rifle Material: Steel For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. . This means you can expect more velocity from a Berger 40gr LTB than the Hornady 40gr V-MAX or the Sierra 39gr BlitzKing.Choosing the correct bullet weight will depend on the environmental condition and the size of prey. The Tactical 20 is easy to load and exceptionally accurate. 20 Practical Cartridge - Making Brass and Loading - YouTube A video showing how easy it is to make brass for and load the 20 Practical cartridge A video showing how easy it is to make brass. This McGowan barrel shoots pretty well with the 32g Noslers HP, and WC844. The Woodchuck Den, Inc.11220 Hilltop Rd., SWBaltic OH 43804woodchuckden.com, Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc.PO Box 1143662 Highway 93 NorthStevensville MT 59870cooperfirearms.com, Redding Reloading1089 Starr Rd.Cortland NY 13045redding-reloading.com, Barnes Bullets, Inc.PO Box 620Mona UT 84645(800) 574-9200barnesbullets.com, Hornady Mfg Co.PO Box 18483625 Old Potash HwyGrand Island NE 68803hornady.com, Berger Bullets, Inc.4275 N. Palm St.Fullerton CA 92835bergerbullets.com, Sierra Bullets1400 West Henry St.Sedalia MO 65301(888) 223-3006sierrabullets.com. Access from your Country was disabled by the administrator. When it came to bullets, quite a number were found, from a Hornady 24-grain lead-free NTX to a 55-grain Berger. Dies & Reloading Tools. $69.99. Varmints probably won't know the difference. However, the same rifle may like the Sierra 39 grain BlitzKing. At $20 per bushing, I should have measured first and bought second. Uses interchangeable sizing bushings available in .001" increments. In those circumstances we can use your reamer print but please note the fired brass will usually yield the best results. Among single-base, extruded powders, Hodgdon H-322 and Vihtavuori N130 produced the best results for me, with IMR-4198 and Accurate 2015 not far behind. This cartridge is based on the 221 Fireball case and is probably the most efficient of the 20-Caliber cartridges. If there is enough consumer demand, Lapua might bring out 20 VarTarg or (more likely) .221 Fireball brass on its own--but don't hold your breath. You can easily make 20 practical dies out of .204 Ruger dies by grinding or turning about .100 off the Base of the dies. Finally, the case is run into the full-length .20 Tactical sizing die that sets the shoulder back and makes the cases ready for fireforming. Not sure, I'm going to remove the expander and take some measurements. The 20 Practical is great option for folks who favor "fast and light" smaller, lower-mass bullets traveling at very high velocities. $24.33. One tip - trim after forming, not before, since the first pass in the die actually shortens the brass a little when the shoulder gets pushed back to the 30 degree angle. Other than a custom die set or a 223 bushing die, how would you form and resize for a 20 Practical? To create 20 Practical cases, just buy a .223 Rem Redding Type "S" Bushing Die . The Official Predator Masters Search Engine, http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-eqsku=749-002-388, http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-eqsku=749-002-155. I've been getting 1-1/2 to 2 thousandths with my .225 bushing that I use for my two 20 Practical bolt guns. Every time I have talked to John about shooting prairie dogs he brings up the 20 practical. 20 Tactical - maybe a slight velocity edge over 20 Practical due to steeper shoulder, longer neck, (Lapua) factory brass (supposedly) available, off-the-shelf dies available; possibly not as smooth feeding as 20 Practical.204 Ruger - available off-the-shelf ammo, available (Winchester) factory brass, probable velocity edge over 20 Practical/20 . Custom dies are best made using three pieces of fired brass from your rifles chamber. For its 55-grain BT, Berger recommends a one-in-8-inch or faster twist. $375.99. All Type-S dies use an interchangeable bushing to control neck diameter and tension to an increment of 0.001. Anybody know the part number for the correct 20 cal decaping assembly? I also feel the expander touching going in on my .228 bushing. At the same time, it appears some rise above the norm. I feel the expander dragging on the way out with the .233, not a lot but enough. Case lubrication/wax should be used very sparingly just on the neck and the body. The 20 Practical is an ideal 20-caliber solution for AR15 platforms. What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business Actually I tried several techniques: simply running sized .223 Remington cases into the .20 Tactical sizing die; first using the form-and-trim die then the .20 Tactical sizing die; and what Sharpless called the Redding way, using the .20 Tactical bullet seating die as an intermediate step between the .223 Remington sizer and the .20 Tactical sizer. $1435.00. See page 13 for additional information on crimp dies. Free shipping for many products! I have read all sorts of things. This die worked perfectly to form 20Tac brass from .223. Woa will do some custom work within reason. The .20 Tactical was developed in 1998 by Todd Kindler, proprietor of The Woodchuck Den, Inc., a retail/mail-order establishment specializing in products for the small bores. Ambient temperature changes, powder lot variations, and differences in barrel friction can result in significantly increased pressures. Use a Redding Type S 223 dies, and use 2 seperate bushings to neck down to 20 cal. Right now Remington is the only source of parent .221 Fireball brass. Thanks! As you change bullet weight, you may find that you need to change the brand to maintain accuracy. 20 BR, 20 PPC, .204 Ruger, Tactical 20, 20 VarTarg, Dean's Savage Load: "Love the cartridge.". This style of bullet seater works more accurately than a conventional (7/8"-14) bullet seating die. While researching on how to make the brass, it seems everyone talks about using a Redding 223 FL die set with bushings and a 204 decapping rod assembly. We offer Custom Sizers, Seaters, Hydraulic Form Dies and Trim Dies from .20 Caliber to .408. 20 practical Die set up on progressive DeadWoodDan Jan 17, 2018 DeadWoodDan Jan 17, 2018 #1 Attempting to be efficient and utilize what I have on hand. 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