Well damn. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Again 5 shots at fifty, for reference that is a 1 dot. Next step for me is to load some like I think they should be loaded, instead of the given data. CFE BLK is a spherical (ball) powder. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Shooters World BLACKOUT. I have probably written it off as a short barrel/pistol gas powder. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. This might end up being a very good powder for carbine gassed guns. Shooters World BLACKOUT. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. It looks about like you would expect given the velocity spreads. Sierra shows a max load of H110 slightly higher than Barnes - 20.5 gr. Obviously, the RPK can throw rounds much further, but not as accurate as a 7.6263 bullet. All Rights Reserved. 21.98, 21.98 800 fps Starting with heavy supers where I have questioned their load data pressure claims before. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Despite this huge disparity in pressure, muzzle velocity of the three is about the same (1,940, 1,971, and 1,899 FPS). *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I just need to figure out if a different seating stem would fit the bullets better. The others were fine in the bolt, but AR reliability dropped significantly with subs with H110 and 4227. Optimized for the .300 AAC Blackout cartridge, CFE BLK works great for .300 Blackout loads in AR-type rifles throughout the range of bullet weights. Chronoed using a magnetto. The Hodgdon loading guide for the 300 Blackout, 150 grn bullet, 16" barrel shows a max recommended load (20.5C grns) that only produces 33,500 PSI max pressure. In this article [] March 27, 2020 Gavin Reloading Blog 300 BLK, 300 BLK Subsonic, 330 AAC Blackout, 45 ACP, 9mm parabellum, AR-10, AR-15, Berry's 220 grain 300 Blackout Spire Point, Berry's Manufacturing, Berry's . Check with leading vendors such as Brunos, Midsouth, and Powder Valley. A 16 had very minor flash. Five shot groups for both barrel lengths. Like everything else work up your loads slowly and you will find the sweet spot where your gun groups the best. Wolf Small Rifle Magnum primers. In a carbine gas I think it has some real potential. NRA Life Member, but the GOA is who I support. Rem 7 1/2 Basically 22 grains, I dropped ten charges and weighed them on a Gempro 250. The first test was 25.0 grs. If you're looking for a multi-purpose load for the .300 AAC Blackout, this may be the best bullet. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Be safe. Should look something like this data: S Slowbolt Registered Joined Mar 26, 2022 8 Posts _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', '.accurateshooter.com']); All the way to the max of 23.7. While the S.A.A.M.I.-recommended maximum overall cartridge length is 1.680 inches, my Marlin 1894 feeds 1.720-inch-long rounds without a hitch. Can be used in small rifle cartridges like the .22 Hornet and .30 Carbine. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); [ARCHIVED THREAD] - CFE BLK vs. H110 for 300 AAC Blackout for Short Barrel ARs. Im guessing the tac-tx Ive got will do the same thing. 9.0, 10.0 grains Hodgdon H-110 powder (See chronograph data below) 2.230 COL (2.260 is max for AR-15) Use load data at your own risk. That should do the trick for 44 Mag. I shoot 243 for coyotes and shoot 58gr to 100 gr bullets. Hodgdon CFE BLK. I did not shoot without the suppressor. CFE BLK gives higher velocities with the 208 grain and heavier bullets. I put .025 compression on the powder. Not sure what weight you are using but I am using it in a 16 carbine length adjustable direct impinge gas system. Enter your cartridge and bullet weight, and the site will list Min and Max loads. 1720fps from 8 inch barrel. Hodgdon H110 $38.99 - $291.99 Hodgdon Hodgdon CFE 223 $39.99 - $297.99 Hodgdon Hodgdon H335 $39.99 - $294.99 Hodgdon Hodgdon H4831SC $54.99 - $345.99 Hodgdon Hodgdon CFE Pistol $36.99 - $262.99 Hodgdon Hodgdon Longshot $36.99 - $277.99 Hodgdon Hodgdon CFE BLK $39.99 - $297.99 Hodgdon Hodgdon RETUMBO $54.99 - $391.99 Hodgdon ok? For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. H110/W296 can give me more velocity with lighter bullet weights. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. (Call for this load data) _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-6323545-2']); 1023 average with 14.0 sd out of a 16" Ruger American. All Rights Reserved. AVG 1050 The Hodgdon loading guide for the 300 Blackout, 150 grn bullet, 16" barrel shows a max recommended load (20.5C grns) that only produces 33,500 PSI max pressure. The original CFE 223 propellant was formulated for reduced copper fouling (CFE in the name refers to Copper Fouling Eraser). The change in the group from last week to this reflects that. This is compared with H110 at 52,800 PSI and IMR 4227 at 48,700 PSI. 150gr Speer Gold Dot (BLK variant) 2.255" Hodgdon CFEBLK 22.8gr 2025fps 25.2gr 2250fps 150gr Speer Gold Dot (BLK variant) 2.255" Accurate 1680 21.3gr 1925fps 23.7gr 2150fps 150gr Speer Boattail Soft Point 2.255" Hodgdon CFEBLK 23.2gr 2075fps 25.8gr 2300fps 150gr Speer Boattail Soft Point 2.255" Accurate 1680 21.7gr 2000fps 24.1gr 2225fps The 7.6239 is a bottleneck rimless case meant to be used at intermediate combat ranges (less than 500 yards). CFE BLK is a spherical (ball) powder. and our I surmised that it was in part because of the larger charge weight recommended. driven every kind of rig that's ever been made, driven the backroads so I wouldn't get weighed. (ft/s) PRESSURE 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT IMR IMR 4198 .308" 2.260" 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Winchester 296 .308" 2.260" . I use H110 for supers only. It will be a very good powder for carbine length systems and probably lighter bullets. Shooters World BUFFALO RIFLE. The first thing I noticed when I opened a one pound jug was that it looked like they shorted me a half pound of powder. I'm also hearing that people are having good results with CFE BLK but according to the burn rate chart CFE BLK is even slower thank A1680. The 8 barrel pistol gas in a word was uncomfortable to shoot without ear protection. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. Right now my feeling is that this is a powder that needs to be compressed. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. Fast Facts About 300 Blackout. I did not take a picture of trigger group, it was actually still very clean. I have not used H110 in my blackout, but I have had very good luck with CFE BLK. Despite this huge disparity in pressure, muzzle velocity of the three is about the same (1,940, 1,971, and 1,899 FPS). In order to get a fair trial for powder burn, cleanliness and blow back. By comparison a sized empty case holds 24.5 grains of H110/296. by alamo5000 Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:35 pm, Post -300BlkTalk, 110 grain V-Max CFE BLK load data -300BlkTalk, For Better Bullet Seating Try Lapping Inside of Seating Stems Daily Bulletin, https://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/300AACBlackoutV6ForWeb.pdf, 300 BLK suppressed AR Pistol subsonic reloading, Powder question for reloading 300 Blackout Subsonic. Shooters World BUFFALO RIFLE. Im not going to hunt deer with it. The same case holds 26.3 grains of CFE BLk. It is somewhat encouraging tho. Last weeks load of 11 grains at 2.255 had an ES just over 200 fps. Any experience with CFE BLK in magnum revolvers? I've used a ton of H110 for .357mag for both pistol and levergun cartridges and 30 carbine in my 2 M1 Carbines in the 15 years. I use W296 only for supers. I think Al in MI uses 300-MP with good results. I dropped the charge .3 grn because I wanted to test velocity in both an 8 pistol gas system and an 18 carbine. I haven't tried cfe blk or h110 yet, but lilgun and imr 4227 work good in my 14" AR. The H110 produced a sharp crack recoil in my leverguns while the Lil'Gun produces a longer, stronger recoil. Nonetheless if your ultimate goal is a higher velocity supersonic round I will concur that H110 or W269 is the preferred powder. yeah thats pretty bad its not just a mark, I have a nice area 419 funnel Im using and I tap them down when filling to get it to settle. With it, I was getting my 158grn .357 Mag loads up to 1,789fps from my 20" Rossi carbine and 1,822fps from my 24" rifle as well as 1,960fps with my 110grn 30 Carbine loads in my M1 Carbines. Hodgdon Trail Boss. 21.98, 21.98 It wasnt the original GI powder, by any means. I pulled my trigger group and stripped my bolt. Great accuracy, very consistent and meters well. I use H110 for supers (110gr) and AA1680 for subs (180 and 208gr). It's interesting that Hodgdon shows 20g is max load, but Hornady shows 20.2g. N110: Similar to Hodgdon H110 and Winchester 296. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/406443/Screenshot_2019-05-14_at_6_52_41_AM-944706.png. (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231) (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia).458 SOCOM From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (from Starline Brass) 458 SOCOM Brass (Large Pistol primer) 1.569-1.576 O.A.L. . This is a modern smokeless powder suitable for a wide variety of popular cartridges. We use it for everything from the 110's to 160+ grain bullets in our 10.5" barrels. It woukd be hard to raise pressures to dangerous levels with this powder. It provides full function in modern sporting rifles throughout a range of bullet weights and is perfect for subsonic loads. I dont really shoot subs so Im sticking with H110/W296 for now for my 125 TNT and 147-150gr FMJs. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C.O.L. 21.98, 21.98 11.5 grn For lightweight supers the density is too high and yeah you'll be compressing even at starting load. The same case holds 26.3 grains of CFE BLk. 2.255 COL, 8 barrel pistol gas CFE Pistol is not a magnum pistol powder. Thats a big benefit for varmint shooters, who may put hundreds of rounds through a barrel in a single day on the varmint fields. WordPress Theme by Solostream. Honestly, I think 4227 and H110/296 to be the ideal powders for that bullet. An ES of 353, SD 133. When I talked to Hodgdon the guy thought the velocity spread would be on the smaller side because of the 7 barrel. LC converted 1.350, 1067 fps Ramshot Enforcer. Please accept my apologies for not reading your entire post.Im just some nobody online so dont get bothered by me. I love my H110 for supers with my 110g V-Max. and it gave 1,225 fps at 39,700 psi and a ES of 16 fps. Back to the Hornady 208 Amax. The 300 AAC Blackout delivers ballistic performance comparable to 7.6239, yet possesses a base diameter that optimizes functionality in an AR-type platform. "Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans." . JMHO, but I would back off of that. CFE BLK Meters Well and Burns Clean NEW CFE Pistol Reduced-Fouling Pistol Powder from Hodgdon, SHOT Show: Hodgdon Introduces New CFE223 Powder, Hodgdon Claims New CFE223 Ball Powder Deters Copper Fouling, New Redding Powder Measure for Small Varmint Cartridges, New 2012 Hodgdon Reloading Manual Coming Soon. I use 20g and get just short of 2400 fps in a 16" barrel with no pressure signs at all. Berry's 220 grain 300 Blackout bullets. 11grn 2.040 COL. You are using an out of date browser. I set this rifle up for hot supers, Ive done a lot to slow down the bolt speed as much as possible. It's exactly this velocity drop that caused folks to start looking at alternatives to the 5.56mm NATO projectiles. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post I thought Lil' Gun , while a great powder, was "known" as a throat burner powder.. running hotter then other choices. I can try a couple with less powder but I cant imagine .5 gr less would stop the bullet from marring. Like 300 Blackout ammunition, it had the ability to be loaded to subsonic or supersonic levels and it would fit in a standard AR15 action and magazine. Buffalo Bore 155gr Tactical Low Recoil, Speeds, Feeds and Ballistics10MM Slugfest: Speer Gold Dot 200gr 10MM & Federal HST 200gr 10MM, 22LR Challenge/Callout: Lithgow 101 and Eley Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision Ammo, Dayattherange 22LR Leader Score Board Callout : CZ455 Varmint, CFEBLK Powder Testing First Thoughts: Guest Post, Kimber K6S DA/SA 3inch Table Top Review: The Journey Begins. Have a supply of CFE BLK just in, and while it looks to be a little slow for the standard Hornet, it may work very well in the K-Hornet, especially with 45-50 grain bullets--which may or may not be worth it. It's suppose to be a good powder between Lil Gun, win296/H110 and A1680, SWB, CFE BLK. Hodgdon says the starting load of cfe blk for that Hyd 110 vmax is 22.5C The 'C' after a load means 'compressed'. I need to drop some speed, these were cracking at 25 degrees. I have always had good luck with H110 and WW296 for that case . Starting in January, 2017, CFE BLK powder will be available in both one-pound (1-lb.) Known for its ability to deliver heavy subsonic bullets for standard AR magazines while cycling the action in suppressed applications, it also works well with lighter supersonic loads, offering a similar external ballistic performance to the 7.62x39mm Russian ( check out my 300 AAC Blackout Review from September 2012 ). For me this powder was very expensive fertilizer until I started getting the bullet down into the powder. Mar 13, 2019. I never used CFE Blk and cannot comment on it, but I have heard great things about it. I was interested in seeing the flash suppression qualities. I know getting your choice of powders is tough right now, but maybe CFE isn't the best choice for that bullet weight. I was going to Houston anyway but it's a big city with lots of traffic. (ft/s) PRESSURE GRS. by dellet Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:27 pm, Post I also bought some Lil Gun and saw negligible difference in accuracy once I worked up the best 150gr fmj load for each. When we are sold out, we are sold out. A sub sonic load was louder than I am used to for a bolt action. These subsonic 300 Blackout loads require 30 caliber bullets in the 190-250 grain range which can get real expensive real quick! Clear Ballistics Gel Test, Kimber Camp Guard ? I know it's probably not much help but I've loaded quite a bit of 300blk and I'm really not of fan of CFE BLK in both sub and super loads. Edited May 29, 2018 by . I chose a load from the on line load data. This is the results of five shots. Thanks for the responses, I'll stay on the lookout for info, maybe Hodgdon will eventually explain or change if wrong. With an impact velocity of . This spherical propellant is designed expressly for the 300 Remington AAC Blackout cartridge and meters very accurately. The table I shoot from is white, there was a fair amount debris on the table from the ejection port. bullets all come in, again, at shorter COAL than Barnes (1.970 and 1.845, respectively, vs. Barnes' 2.250). 2.255 COL It is likely bolt speed and compressed powder moving the bullet forward due to moving faster on an empty mag. It's a very dense powder. The 300 is a heavy for caliber version of the 30 carbine. Share the post "New Hodgdon CFE BLK Powder Great for Small Cartridges", Tags: .221 Fireball, AR, AR16, Ball Powder, CFE 223, CFE BLK, Copper Fouling Eraser, Data Center, Hodgdon, Reduced Fouling. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It was reasonably overcast when shooting, with plenty of snow. CFE BLK contains our Copper Fouling Eraser ingredient, originally used in military propellant, which greatly deters copper fouling and contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. I have loaded and shot the 44 Mag since the late 50's. I currently have a Smith 69, the 5 shot revolver on the "L" frame, and . I've loaded the 300Whisper's multiple leade angle chamber designed for the 220-240gr projectiles since it's inception 30+ years ago & to date. The added burn time, longer dwell really tames the noise and cuts down on the amount of powder blow back. CFE BLK Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. A first look at the new Hodgdon CFE BLK powder for 300 blackout. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Hodgdon H322. COSteve, I read your post, and I take it that none of the H110 comparison was with 300BO, correct? 15.8gr H110 chrono'd 1920fps from my 16" with the bullet crimped into the first driving band. I have had trouble before with sunny and snow being too bright. Work up. Both of those work very well. Muzzle Velocity: 2,259 fps. Email ( required; will not be published ). Did I forget to mention that gas proof goggles might not be a bad idea when shooting this powder? I like H110 under Barnes 110gr TAC-TX. And I can attest to the fact it does a number on rock chucks. Hodgdons new CFE BLK (named after the .300 AAC Blackout cartridge) has a faster burn rate than the original CFE 223. The powder is growing on me in a carbine gas system. Classifieds 282 Gender:Male averaging 3428 fps. I am feeling a little better about the powder and will try to run a couple more loads this weekend. 2.185 COL 44 Hodgdon CFE Pistol 94 IMR Co IMR 4166 144 Accurate Arms 8700 45 Ramshot Silhouette 95 IMR Co IMR 4064 145 Vihta Vuori 24N41 46 VihtaVuori 3N37 96 Norma 202 146 Hodgdon 50BMG I'm using a suppressor and 16 inch barrel and there is plenty of gas to cycle the action reliably and give me around 1050 fps. (function() { Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. 1064 Hodgdon H110. Hodgdon Lil'Gun. The carbine gas system was not so bad, cycled and locked back with no problem. Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to Scan this QR code to download the app now. 21.96, 22.00. By comparison a sized empty case holds 24.5 grains of H110/296. 1047 I actually drove to the city (Houston) this weekend and I picked up some powder. 23 of 110 is hot as hell Im running 19 with the Barnes 110s and I thought that was stout. I wanted to see how light of a bullet that could be cycled, I run an 18 1/10 twist carbine gassed rifle, port size is .110 with a M16 Lmt enhanced BCG and a JP heavy/tungsten captured spring using the heaviest spring. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Hodgdon has announced a new faster variant of its popular CFE 223 powder. When 350 Legend debuted, Winchester claimed it was the fastest straight wall cartridge ever released. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. Can you provide data for reloads using the CFE BLK. by alamo5000 Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:54 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. and eight-pound (8-lb.) Rem 7 1/2 Hodgdon Lil'Gun. Using federal AR match primer. Cartridge Overall Length: 2.02 inches. I am also using 220 grain subsonic loads. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 2023 Day At The Range. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. BTW, 18.5 grs pushing 110 gr Hornady SP's are way more accurate out of my cheap PSA rifle than I would have ever figured staring out. PwrPro 300-MP H110 296 H4227 IMR - 4227 AR - 2205 A - 5744 A - 1680 680 N - 120 H4198 IMR - 4198 200 AR - 2207 2000 A - 2200 LT-32 REL - 7 AR - BMk1 H - 322 A - 2015 AR - 2219 Benchmark IMR - 3031 A - 2230 X-Terminator REL-10x 201 AR - BMk2 3000 N - 130 A - 2460 Sp10 BLC (2) 748 N - 133 Privacy Policy. I started this load like I do many. Shooters World HEAVY PISTOL. One new winner* is announced every week! Its a very dense powder. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. 1007 fps AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. But more importantly, in the same range. Lil gun and Win 296/H110 seem to do good for 300gr. vs 20.2. Very accurate. Although I had lock back on empty, I had possibly the highest ES/SD numbers in recorded history. For more information, please see our I always record where the bullet will touch the powder. All in all for first impressions, I would say disappointment is the word best describing the experience. Shooters World SBR-SOCOM. Hodgdon reports the CFE BLK meters well, allowing reloaders to throw very consistent charges every time: This fine powder meters like a dream and leaves no copper residue, extending accuracy for longer shooting periods, and making clean-up quick and easy.. LC converted 1.350. 208 Amax, 11 grains at 2.260. I did not want the 18 to go super( ). 11.2 gr. of H-110 which is our standard loading and it gave 1,151 fps at 42,500 psi. I use AA1680 or CFE BLk for subs. No amount of coating will keep 55,000 psi from cutting a soft bullet. I have read a variety of ballistic charts and reloading data. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Surprisingly they list Lil'Gun as their preferred powder and not H110 or W296. Winchester 296 . After reading the threads posted I felt more comfortable compressing the load to the 2.050 COL. 220 Hornady RN, 12.1gr CFE BLK, sig brass, cci 450. CFE BLK vs. H110 for 300 AAC Blackout for Short Barrel ARs - AR15.COM AR-15 AR Pistols Site Notices TNVC vSHOTT 2023 Livestream MAR 21-23 - Win a TNVC Custom Cobalt Kinetics CK-PRO Rifle! It provides full function in modern sporting rifles throughout a range of bullet weights and is perfect for subsonic loads. SWEDEN, 10MM Fenix FXP Ammunition 180gr Speer Gold Dot Gel Test, Underwood 10MM 150gr Nosler ? A friend suggested maybe the bullet jacket is just crazy thin on this run of V-Max?? FYI I have since found the 125gr FMJ #30196 is FAR better for cheap supers in the caliber, and loaded over 20gr of CFE BLK it is decent, but CFE BLK is better suited as a subsonic powder (or with the 110gr v-max), H110/W296 is FAR better for most supers, 18gr under that 125gr bullet crimped to the cannelure is accurate and IIRC at least 100FPS 11.2 CFE BLK I have VERY little imr4227 but I do have cfe blk, lil gun and accurate 1680. The group on the left, starts showing some promise. 2.255. I dont have any h110 right now. 1038 Here is a target at fifty yards. Pistol SET YOUR SIGHTS ON PISTOL RELOADING DATA Find what you need in four easy steps. The CFE Pistol is made for 9X19, 40, 38 Super and such. Sierra Jacketed SP BC: 0.338 2.100" OAL SD: 0.226 Sugg Max StartingVelocity Pressure Load Velocity Pressure Powder Grains FPS Grains H110 Lil Gun . If they are growing, you have too much compression. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. The following is from a 10" test barrel using the 700 gr. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4227. They literally explode. 11.2 grn Shooters World HEAVY PISTOL. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. It may not display this or other websites correctly. But note, seating depth can make a significant difference in pressures. Just received some info back from Callahan Mciver at Hodgdon Powder. (At least that would be my guess, if the data is accurate). This spreads out the seating force over a larger area of the bullet jacket. Mainly because I had a jug or two squirreled away. by alamo5000 Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:46 pm, Post JavaScript is disabled. Moreover, CFE BLK is perfect for subsonic, reduced loads. One new winner* is announced every week! Im right in the middle of the load data. when I discounted that as a possible loading error the ES dropped to 24, SD 10. these are numbers that are a reasonable to start with. 18.5/H110/125 Sierra SP grouped in 1/2--3/4" range from my Contender . Cookie Notice NOTE: Despite the BLK in the name, this is a NOT a black powder substitute. A couple of known loads were within reason. 1011 Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. 813 fps Hodgdon H110. That makes CFE BLK ideal for small cartridges such as the .17 Hornet and .221 Fireball. by alamo5000 Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:45 pm, Post If so, are you suggesting that there should be a direct correlation with how H110 will perform in 300BO and your example calibers/cartridges? "Still flying like gypsies, just a little closer to the ground" Trace Adkins. Lil' Gun along with H110/W296 (same powder) and AA1680 are all great powders for 300BLK. Hodgdon data only shows IMR4227 loads. The fun news is that with this setup I was able to have full function shooting Hornady 150 fmj #3037 bullets when suppressed. Primers showed some flattening, more than I would have expected for only 37,400 psi. In all honesty I do not shoot enough 1680 as a sub powder to compare the two without loading and shooting them side by side. alamo5000 I won't go into powers or practices as other, better men than I have already spoken however if you, or anyone here for that matter, need to order on line might I suggest Graf & Sons. . 2500fps out of a 14.5" barrel. Really wish my chrono would not flake out at these higher rifle speeds. and a ES of 11 fps. by 41Bear Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:44 am, Post I got like 5lbs of it for around $10-12/lb and its worked great for 125-150gr supers. ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I use H110 mostly for 410 shotshells and 450 Bushmaster heavy loads. Awesome, thanks. 16 SD, Original load, Hodgdon data. I use mostly Hornady heads and I really like this caliber. 1:13" barrel tho. In addition to being outstanding in the 300 Blackout, it performs well in many smaller capacity cartridges such as the 17 Hornet, 17 Ackley Hornet, 218 Bee, 221 Fireball and many more. For sub its dirty and the velocity spread is too high for decent accuracy. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. H110 is the powder that was used to make 30 carbine. I bought 2 pounds of this powder since it was all I could find. I could drop .5gr powder to lower the load to the minimum but I doubt it would then not deform the bullets. Still at 50 yards, back to the original powder charge of 11.2 grains. GRS. H110 made sense to me since I load .357 sometimes. 240 SMK Any thoughts on if it's worth the time and effort to try to work up a load with CFE BLK? 8.6 BLK H110 vs CFE BLK I've got a load worked up using both A1680 and H110 for my 8" gas gun build. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. In addition, Hodgdon reports that CFE BLK performs superbly in many smaller-capacity cartridges, in particular varmint cartridges such as the .17 Hornet, .17 Ackley Hornet, .218 Bee, .221 Fireball. 1059 (And from what some say, can possibly go faster). VEL. I am working with Lil' Gun right now working up loads for a new addition for me, 458 SOCOM. The post is about my experience between H110 and Lil'Gun in .357mag used in 20" and 24" leverguns explaining that I switched powders for the much lower peak pressure advantage expecting to see a slight drop in velocities as is the case with Lil'Gun when used in pistol length barrels but instead I found I got a large velocity increase along with the expected lower peak pressure.
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